Original Skateboards marketed a video called "Go Longboard" on Youtube (go watch it)
and in it not one rider wore a helmet, all other videos by this channel are the same, no helmets.
after seeing Wipeout the documentary I was shocked that people actually do not wear helmets
I am displeased with this company and am shocked that they haven't changer it.
I might be blowing things out of proportion, but its a large and hard subject.
Here is a email I wrote to them:
The youtube videos that you have are amazing and the cinematography and shots are absolutely wonderful, however I do have a major complaint. In almost all of your videos there is a total and complete lack of helmets. Especially the video titled "Go Longboard" in which not a SINGLE person skateboarding/longboarding is wearing a helmet, not one. This is a horrible example and extremely dumb to market.... yes go longboard but wear a helmet! It doesn't matter if you are going 10 km/h or 110 km/h, it doesn't matter if you are carving, sliding, bowl riding, bombing, freeriding. One simple crack, one tiny rock can severely hurt your head and damage your brain. I would like you to refer to http://wipeout.knowledgenetwork.ca/wipeout.html and watch some videos. All these videos depict what happens without HELMETS.
I expected better from a "professional" longboard manufacture company and it's "professional" riders.
Although there is no proper demonstration at the moment there can always be change.
Please reconsider and advertise safety, not stupidity...
I don't know you and I don't think we have ever met. My name is D.T. it is short for DOWNHILL THUNDER among other things, in fact here is a photo of me:
Allow me the pleasure to say,
"Go Fuck Yourself!"
Who are you to JUDGE others? In an effort to not sound like a total hypocrite let me try and express what I am feeling and thinking.
I use to enjoy reading and posting on Silverfish. Until I spent enough time on there to see things that I personaly do not agree with. Too many kids were and probablly still are on there telling the world about what is and isn't acceptable. In fact, I personally regard boys like Erik Basil and Malakai Kingston, I mean Bobby Finklestein, as SPINDOCTORS or as I believe they view themselves as the "THE MORAL COMPASS of LONGBOARDING" even though neither of them actually speedboard or charge hills, but because they read alot about it, see all the videos, attend other peoples events,and know people who do AND run one of the largest HEAVILLY CENSORED websites they have a RIGHT to operate in the manner I stated above. Of course this is MY opinion.
Opinions are like assholes, everybody has one, and they usually stink.
I don't think in their hearts they set out to be like this but the illusion of "power" even if its generated from a website corrupts. They have mostly been real cool to me and I have never been uncivil towards them, but I do speak my mind from time to time.
So I am sharing this to contrast how FUCKING COOL COASTLONGBOARDING IS! There is rarely any CENSORSHIP here. Freedom of speech is prevelant and runs rampant! HOORAY!!!! Thank you Bricin and everybody else involved.
Thank you Sector 9 for buying advertising here. Ever notice most those guys are not wearing helmets in their ads either??? How come you dont crucify them? Did original not sponsor you or something? I dont know, just typing out my ass here.
so here is why I am offended (not so much at the content of your post but the attitude, I percieve behind it)
Maybe I like skateboarding in my underwear with my bling on!
I also have an American flag tucked in my briefs as well, because I am an AMERICAN and enjoy FREEDOM (albeit somewhat limited but alot more than skates in Sudan).
I am a MAN and I live with whatever consequences I recieve from my own actions. If I don't wish to wear a helmet, or leathers, or gloves, or shoes, or clothes, thats my perogative!
I am religious too, but you don't see me preaching on here about whats right and wrong. We are all human and we all fuck up. Who knighted you?
Of course og guys like Jody can make fun of my shiny poser ass board all day long and I will laugh with him all the way to the bank! I love laughing and can handle a joke as well as dish it out too.
So Jonathan where MUST we draw our lines???
My helmet is cracked because I loaned it to a friend to help him be more aero in a race. I don't have a good helmet or leathers. My shoes have holes in them along with most of my clothes.
I would rather tear open my skin than my clothes. It grows back. If I cant skate because I dont have a helmet well are YOU going to provide me with one?
In closing, sometimes I do not always agree with the IGSA. But I dont go out of my way to talk shit about them behind their backs or on forums. When I do have a problem I speak with Marcus. Marcus is a good guy and listens and will always tell you where he stands. In the same regard, Sean Mallard once told me something I hold true to my heart.
IF YOU DONT LIKE SOMETHING, YOU SHOW YOUR LACK OF SUPPORT BY NOT TALKING ABOUT IT AND BY NOT GIVING THEM YOUR MONEY. TO DO ONE WITHOUT THE OTHER IS HYPOCRITICAL.
Your probably a good guy and love skateboarding as much as me or anyone else on Coast.
here is a piece of advice: if you want to be CAPTAIN SAFETY PATROL, GO BACK TO SILVERFISH! You will find you fit in like a square in a round hole. Dont forget to write up Originals Obituary for their front page while you are at it!
i think what jono is trying to say is that people should not be putting our sport out there in that way. we need to be safe considering we have already had a few deaths this year (RIP you guys) but i also agree with d.t. in some of his point. i personally think that we need to ride safe cuz i dont want to hear about anyone getting hurt bad. SHRED THE GNAR
jono i think your wrong man people need to make up there own minds on what level of safe they want to be.dont kid yourself into thinking your preforming a safe activity bombing the bps.go watch some new school vids and chill out.its a good message to share with your friends but your really lame for trying to negatively make a big deal about how a company portrays their own products or how they are used.set an example through your actions not slander.
hellmets save lives and professional athletes should be setting a good example for the younger generation. having said taht, its up to the individual to keep himself safe...if you get hurt wearing your gear il feel bad for you, not wearing your gear il think your an idiot....
DT says it all. Its all about personal preference. Dont get me wrong I always wear a helmet of sorts, and I do incourage the use of helmets. But if someone (or some company) wants to ride with the wind through their hair, who am I (or YOU) to say it's unacceptable.
Point is, YOU wear YOUR helmet, but dont be a noggin nazi.
PS, HEY DT!! Are you still rockin' that redeyez shirt that striker gave you at WW1?
Thanks again for the shirt. To be honest I am not sure what happened to it. When I drink alot of liquour I tend to take off my clothes and lose them. I think John might have it though. My bro hooked us up with a motorhome for maryhill and he took off early and some of our stuff got mixed up, so I think its around. The eye graphics are mean!!! I just got back from that trip, so hopefully can go by da kine real soon.
Charls, I like how you put that. Much Respect and thank you for giving a shit.
Blankman,
you are a pussy and always will be as long as you never post your name.
There have been alot of serious injuries and deaths in the past 10 years. Thats as long as I have been speedboarding and racing. Some deaths have been because of faulty helmets, some people died from guard rails, others from hang glider helmets, some got hit riding on the wrong side of the road!
If you roll the dice you will pay the price. Its not a matter of if, but when!
I was at Maryhill and I rode in full leathers, slide gloves, and my cracked helmet. Every run. I got choke donuts and lumps to wit it. I knew where I stood and geared up appropriatly.
Those photos are taken a week later at another hill 100 miles east of there. The hill is on private property, ridden with permission with no cars. The run out goes back up hill, it starts out as a 5% hill and ends at 14% with speeds in the upper 50s and low 60s when its a tail wind. Here's another photo:
We are hoping to be putting on a cross over race here the week after dbay. At this point we are working out the liability issues with the property owners. It would be a super g slalom and a 2 man race. Camping will available along with a drainned pool - full on vert - 2 new hills nearby (one is 9% with 3 180s & the other is 2mi+ in the mid 60s w/ sweepers) also the Irragon skate park is nearby with a full pipe and choke vert. We will be using banshee bungees for the start and hope to provide alot more! keep your fingers crossed.
When we put together last years Cali outlaw series, I wrote the safety rules and it was MANDATORY to race with a helmet AND slide gloves!
expect similar rules.
Furthermore Susan,
A well known sports psychologist. Bruce Ogilvie, professor emeritus of psychology at San Jose State University conducted a study of 293 high-risk competitors including skydivers, race car drivers, fencers and aerobatic pilots in 1973 using psychological batteries and personal interviews. Ogilvie found risk-takers to be success oriented, strongly extroverted, above average in abstract ability and superior in intelligence when compared to the general population. He found these athletes are rarely reckless in their risk taking; their risk-taking is cool and calculated. He estimates that 6% of the athletes compete out of anger or out of deep feelings of inferiority or because they are trying to prove something about themselves. The other 94% are emotionally stable."
so Logan, If I feel led to speak up about facts and my opinions, its not because I am full of myself. I post photos of myself to show my point and my first hand perspective.
I suck at skateboarding but I do it because its fun. I always figured skateboarding is about having fun NOT WINNING.
Maybe you should MAN UP a little, son. Keep crying about your feelings and how the Owners are making fun of you, and silverfish doesnt listen to you, pee u wee ou!!! wa wa waaaa! Dt this blah bla blah. work on your reading comprehension and
Try to imagine how little I care.
so Coast,
I have a hang glider helmet. Is it really that SAFE??? I mean should we all be wearing DOT helmets???
I dont think hang glider helmets are worth that much in terms of safety. They are made to be aero and help provide safety from hitting wood NOT ASPHALT!
I think people wear them to be AERO not safe.
People like to be competitive, thats why I often skate half naked. I like trying to pass my friends while riding, its fun. Baggy clothes often prevent this.
When I go to races that require leathers, I gladly wear them and don't complain.
dt, i dont know what your trying to accomplish here, everyone on coast is a genius with their lives and will wear a helmet. i think his point was passed right through your thick skull. i read it and after read your comments thinking the whole time of how much you just didnt get. yeah sure personal pref opinon, and all that shit, but its really about setting the example of saftey, when longboarders die or sustain horrible life changing injuries to the head, it puts a bad look on out fuckin awesome sport, and you posting pics of yourself not wearing a helmet going however fast you said you were, i dont know if i an but i think i can say that we all think your a flaming idoit for doing that kinda thing, the only reason i wear a helmet is because someone told me too and said why, now i've smaked my head several times on the ground quite hard and i was FINE because i wore a helmet, the guy from the seawall cruse and along with most others were not wearing helmets and look what happend at such a low speed. aero helmetes hangglider helmets ect. are not as safe as DOT approved helmets but they still help its not like they dont do anything, my friend phil on a run on galardi way crashed around the corner hit the back of his head and was fine, he might need to get a new helmet but he didnt need to get a new brain. silver fish is for douchebags, im not even going to go there about the U.S.A.
yes people wear those helmets to be aero but you know what why dont you just go and wax all the hair off your head abd race like that i bet that would do quite well for you seing as your head is shaped like a aero helmet, fuckin dick head. anyways i'd like to go and say back to you, go fuck your self!!! and we all know that one day your head is going to get fucked my the ground. im going to wear my helmet and i know lots that will too, everyone i know that longboards that sees some one speedboarding with out a helmet just thinks what a fuckin idiot, and from you posting those pics of yourself, it makes you look like an idiot, and saying "go fuck your self" to jono just out of no where like that for no good reason is not cool, alll he wanted was to share and express his feelings towards proper longboard saftey and and setting good examples. go back to the clit we dont like assholes like you here or atleast i know i dont.
i know more people will aprove of that then your lame atmeps at shoting down jono's opinion, mabey not shooting it down but saying other wise. but in a very negative way.
here a somthing else a vid of me going 110kmh with no leathers yeah sure i wont wear leathers going that fast but i will still wear my helmet. the next time you go longobarding, i hope you hit your head and learn your fuckin lesson.
you sir are an american idiot. you think wearing clothes prevents you passing people? lose some weight and work on your tuck i hope you die because you so stupid. your probably one of those dumb white power americans that cant think outside the box. well your a idiot and that is all. bottom line your a moron and i feel sorry for you. your parents clearly are brother and sister.
Honestly dudes, this is entertaining and all but really...shut the fuck up lol and just go skateboard, insulting eachother and telling everybody to go fuck themselves will not make them change their minds. I mean i agree 100% that you should wear your helmets but if you dont thats your choice youll eventually get fucked up but thats the name of the game i guess. There will always be people not wearing helmets or the appropriate safety gear
that will look us look bad but like i said thats the name of the game, they'll always be out there no matter how you voice your opinion. deal with it..it's a part of our sport and always will be.
yo DT IM the mike you drove home from danny,s race the first year. fuck was I ever Hung over after that party. and thanks agin for the ride. I hope we can throw up together in a old mineing tunnel again soon. maybe even bomb a hill.
So I have a question for you :
as a sponcerd skateboarder , film maker, advertiser or media source who is in a lot of ways "in control " of the direction of a sport and culture, and who has made an effort to be in a spot light to promote skateboarding or a product .
do you feel like the person or group should take some responsabilty to promote the "right" thing to do.
part (2)
where do you draw the line on promoteing the right thing?
safty? the envroment ? manufacturing procudres ?
its a heavy and hard question that has no right answer.
here is my asshole on the subject.
i will start with a video
if that did not work
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uujy6m2VOh8
this is a video of a young man losing his life. They are on the "unoffical landyachtz team"
I feel that it is a fairley safe assumption that the real landyachtz team is probley a large infulance on this group.
I dont know if its my place to be pushing important world issues on to people who look up to me but I feel that there is a minium that we must preach.
I personally draw that line at responcable behaver wile practiceing what we do. sucth as spotting corners , riding in your skill level , and helmets.
I am a member of the landyachtz factory team.
I allmost cryed when i saw this video . It is still hard to watch today.
If there were videos and photos of me doing what i do with out a helmet I would have lost my shit.
I know that I have done allmost everything in my very limmeted power to promote safty.
In conclusion i feel that pepole in the spot light should take some responcibilty for promoting the safe practice of their sport.
To Robert Harris
rest in peace bro.
Mike Mc Goldrick Team Landyachtz/Pilsner Coastlongboarding Admin vlogazene editor. shitty film maker.
The guy in the from the Seawall cruise fell doing 30km, that is about 19 mph. That is a fast push. It is not a matter of speed when boarding, you do not have control over your environment, anything can happen.
If someone I am riding with gets hurt it is the rest of the crews responsibility to make sure the injured gets the appropriate medical support. I expect someone to do that for me as I for them. Someone not wearing a helmet is asking everyone else in your crew to take even more responsibility for them because they do not want to wear a helmet.
I have had the pleasure of having my skate session and my whole day f'ed up to take care of someone with a cracked skull who "chose" not to wear a helmet. I spent 6 hours in the ER waiting for family to show up. Making the phone call to the family was the highlight of the day.
I do not understand how people can think this is a "personal" choice. Look at all the people that are effected by the injurys, your crew you are skating with, the family's who may have to completely change thier life to accomidate your "personal" choice and the rest of the longboarding community who may have to deal with the repercussions of your "personal" choice (a father of a kid north of Seattle tried to get longboarding outlawed because of his sons personal choice not to wear a helmet).
We have alot of personal freedoms in our respective countries but with personal freedom comes personal responsibility.
I will not ride with someone who does not wear a helmet, I do not want to accept the additional responsibility they choose not to accept themselves. Been there, done that and it is not any fun.
I always have an extra helmet or 2 for those that don't. I just want to skate and not have an emergency ruin my session.
It is a companies choice to represent themselves how they wish, it is my personal choice whether I wish to support them.
DT thanks for the Bday wishes and I hope your test in SF went well, I am looking forward to Ditch slap and riding with you again. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help with your event up here.
and finally a big FUCK YOU TO ALL YOU MOTHERFUCKERS WHO MADE THIS PERSONAL!!!!!!
DT was expressing his opinion in a very articulate way and the best you can come up with is a personal insult?
It's not about YOU, it's about EVERYONE ELSE that is immediately effected and will be effected by the bad media coverage and laws that will follow. So if you have any respect for everyone else in the community, wear a damn helmet.
I like skateboarding, I like being alive I don't like wearing a helmet but I do because it really hurts when my head hits the ground. Yes I also skate without a helmet occasionally and frequently bomb without gloves. I do it because it feels amazing and reminds me of why i starting skating in the first place.
Helmets work, skating rules, DT's pictures make me miss sunny weather and personal insults are lame
the personal insults were not about his opinoin, it was the fact that he showed such disrespect to jono when saying go fuck yourself, i was suprised when that was said, like i said before its not cool just to say a thing like that to somone adressing their opinion and saying it politly and with no disrespect to anyone.
i think i am one of the only few people who actualy where's a DOT at races/when ever im riding. when i used to short board wich was about 4 years of my life i never wor a helmit becouse i wase never going fast at all,like maby 20km/h max but i dont even ride to school(wich is more of a push then anuything)without a brain bucket on with my longboard becouse it's harder to cuntroll and tern as fast as a shortboard and ever since i almost got hit by a car not going fast at all in van and smashed my face off the road,broke my finger and had a massiv black eye i always where my gloves and helmit!
promoting no use of a helmit is like promoting dont where a seetbelt,shure some of us dont where it every once in a wile but if you dont you know the consiqwenses(DEATH) and kids are impreshinable and will be like "owow he's so awsome,longboarding without a helmit i wanna be like him"and next thing you know you got some little kids death or serius injery on your conchence,not cool.play safe!
p.s. a crapy helmit is better then no helmit!!! remember my old orange one that was 3 sises to big,i could berrly see out of and i bot it for 3$ at the thrift store,that bad boy saved my life.
i agree wolf, all jono was talkin about was wearing a helmet, i don't think anyone should be aloud to say fuck you when someone says"put on a helmet", i think we should all say fuck you to someone who says "fuck helmets", so DT "FUCK YOU"
I never meant to insult people, i just saw the video and was kind of shocked that they would advertise our sport like that, you can swear, cuss etc. at me but I will still spread the message to wear a helmet. People close to me have seriously hurt themselves without their lids.
I am not a noggin nazi I just don't want people to get hurt.. that all. Is it okay to care?
Yeah Im pretty sure this thread is just about done..
But wolf I think you did take it a bit to far by saying "i can say that we all think your a flaming idoit"
Speak for yourself and respect your elder longboarders.Im not entirley sure, but I would not be surprised if DT was shreddin the gnar without a lid while you were swimmin around your dads ballsack.
anyways..
DT, have no worries, Ill get you another redeyez shirt next time a see you, one of our new ones. Or maybe two so you can lose one when your slammered.
PEACE LOVE AND LONGBOARDING ( And a helmet for ME)
wow, you write one thing down when you're stoned and everyone throws a fit. Wear condoms people!! SAFE SEX!! Other than that dont fall on your head! simple enough aint it?
I am not trying to accomplish anything other than challenge someone as to WHY they feel it is neccessary to Judge and Persecute others. There is no right or wrong way to do it, its the simple hypocritical act of judging I so greatly disdain.
In fact I almost always wear a helmet, but if I get a wild hair up my ass and wish to ride in a controlled enviroment who are you to say otherwise. Fuck if I want to skitch down Broadway, NY and play people and taxi slalom without any safety gear that you deem acceptable, I am not going to ask for your permission mother.
Your comment about the dick head almost made me blow milk out my nose. That was TRULY FUNNY, thanks, you made my morning.
You can practice your "don't hate appreaciate" while telling me to fuck myself and guess what, it doesnt hurt my self esteem one bit. People have always had potty mouths on coast and no one has really seemed to mind. It unites us in many ways. In a dysfunctional manner, its kinda like saying I love you! We are all just another feather in the flock, you and are not much different. Perhaps I have been doing it longer but I will never hold that over your head because who am I. I am nobody, just dt. If you want to keep calling me dickhead online, go for it, but at least come up with something creative.
Blankman,
Once again you show people how retarded you truly are. White Power??? haha i've never been called that before, I guess there is a first for everything, I will remember that next time I am tutoring homeless kids in Inglewood, Koreatown, and other various parts of South Central Los Angeles. Once again you do what you do best, HIDE. PUSSY.
Da Silva, Respect.
Mike, I will never forget you. You avsolutly rip skateboards and are a great human. I enjoyed the brief time getting to know you a little and you are truly a diamond in the rough in the downhill skateboard "community"
to answer your questions,
do you feel like the person or group should take some responsabilty to promote the "right" thing to do?
I will not answer that directly because I do not think it is up to either one to promote what is or isn't "right". The individual must choose for themself what they think is best for themself. Now if a promoter is hosting an event, you will often be forced to comply and respect certain liabilities. Unfortuantly, some of us live in litigious societies and must cover their own ass. In regards to the enviroment, I won't touch on here with a ten foot pole, because my views go and in hand with my theocracy. But anyone proffitting from the production of product IS taking from the enviroment even if its bamboo etc etc, you pay for shipping which in turn blah blah blah if you truly want my opinion talk to me in person.
I couldnt view Robert Harris's video because I have an old computer. I will watch repeatidly later on a friends pc. Anyone that knows me and has seen the bottom of my board knows how much I respect our fallen riders.
maximum respect to those who have passed doing what they love.RIP.
Jono,
I did close my post to you with Love, but I see it with different eyes than you. Right now the issue is helmets, if you keep going down this path it will be mandatory leathers, then mandatory closed road riding, etc etc.
and lastly,
what is the downhill community? I can't stand people who rid for the "IMAGE" of a sport they lay CLAIM to. I am not popular nor care to be, but what have YOU done for the sport. I am not looking for a single answer because comparison is the root of inferiority, simply ask yourself and think about it.
Like Mike, I often bring extra safety gear and if a new rider doesnt have gear i will take mine off for them to use because I am comfortable with my own riding ability.
To me community is where we live, I HAVE SO MUCH RESPECT FOR:
PUSH FOR THE CURE & THE TOY DRIVE.
that is so cool and positive for your actual community (not skateboarding).
Look at the magazines: Juice, Thrasher, Concusion, Transworld, even Concrete Wave show photos of riders with no helmets.
You are in the minority.
When Michael Brooke tells everyone he will put them on the cover if you break 100mph, is that responsible?
again who are we to judge. we are all responsible for our own actions.
if i offended you, grow up, this is the internet, i never said one thing that i percieve as "personally" rather strong language to stir a pot.
Honestly wear a helmet, I have a friend in the hospital who suffered a big fall on his head(not longboard related, but it was impact trauma), and he will NEVER be the same. He is mentally ok, but trapped in his atrophied, paresis-ridden body. Im not going to rip on anybody for not wearing a helmet, just be smart, dont take stupid risks, and remember your actions affect more than yourself.
im assuming all of you that are mad right now are first born longboarders...THAT IS WHY I WILL NEVER EXPECT YOU TO UNDERSTAND WHAT I AM ABOUT TO TELL YOU...
i often ride without a helmet, never when im on a huge hill or anything...but yeah, your gonna see me running errands and fucking around at street parks without one. it was only this year (after a full year of downhilling) that i was even comfortable skating in a bowl with a helmet on. NO its not cuase i was afraid of what people would say, IT WAS BECUASE THE FEELING OF SOMETHING FOREIGN ON MY HEAD FUCKED ME UP MORE THAN ANYTHING!
some people have different personal boundries than others...and thats the joy of individuals.
it is a great thing to set an example by wearing one, which is why you'll never see me at a contest or event without one...but yeah, you might catch me in a backyard mini ramp without one on my head. once again...my choice.
dont post back calling me an idiot, becuase im not one...and neither is anyone else here, this is just what happens when people talk about something they are passionate about over the internet and not in person.
and to you who said fuck s9...say that to thier faces. they were skating bowls and parks and everything in between without helmets for years before you discovered how to stand on a big board and go fast. its not that they are against wearing helmets, its just that they are comfortable not wearing them, and that is their choice. sometimes comfort is the key to your safety. its not your body to comment on, so dont comment on it. i know your argument will be that becuase they are in the public eye, they should...but your gonna have to attack EVERY SINGLE OTHER SKATEBOARD COMPANY in the industry as well as attacking them if thats your problem...
you'll find that most the people that dont rock helmets here and there are skateboarders that have been attacking everything on anyboard in thier path for many years. dont think that your posts are gonna change the way they operate. instead...why dont you wear your helmet wherever you go if thats what your into...and try to encourage others to do the same; not tell them to...
ride on and ride fucking hard, no matter what choices you choose to make. do whatever your comfortable doing as long as you think its right!
DT, i hqve nothing but respect for you and i have heard about you and that you truly are a ripper, i am not challenging you i just have an opinion that helmets should be worn at all times.... nothing against you,
Hey DT. I like that you enter the debate and say what you think. You're obviously articulate and bright. This coming from an observer and lover of the sport who has a son - shante - whose passion is going mach speed down hills. Nate grew up watching his old man go mach speed down hills racing bicycles. I've had some good crashes and would not be writing this now but for a lycra covered Giro helmet that split in six pieces (1984 - 45mph West Van) If you were the only guy on the planet, your life is your own and your choices only affect you. Unfortunately, you're not, and someone cares about you - maybe mom, dad, grandma, gramps, brother, sister, lover, whoever. And when you become comatosed or stop breathing because you wanted to express your independence and bomb some hill without safety stuff on , you take a whole bunch of people with you to despair, sorrow, lifelong sadness, and broken hearts. Sounds hollywood but that's what happens. You won't care cause you're dead, or a slobbering guy in a diaper cause your brain is mush. But those who live with the memory of who you used to be will be messed up for some time - maybe forever. Oh yeah, he was "just just doing what he loved" - BULLSHIT! - he was a selfish moron who was too in love with his own ego and need for independence to consider how his actions might impact other people who care about him. And people do care about you. Consider all the folks in this post who want to set you straight, not cause they're judgmental, or opinionated but cause they know downhill has enough danger without deliberately, unnecessarily increasing the danger by riding without your lid. My wife has been a nurse for 30 years. Those people who treat you when you're brought in on a back-board... They all carry the burden of pointless deaths or life changing injury for a long time. Some leave the profession because of it. Doctors get depressed when kids die from preventable head injury. Pilots in WW II never thought they weren't coming back to the base after a raid. They new the risks and saw their buddies die, but somehow were able to continue flying cause they thought it would be the other guy that gets it. It's of the psyche of a warrior - I'll survive somehow. You bomb hills in your skinny cause you think you'll be OK and land on your feet. Most young guys live like they'll never die, or become a quad. If you though becoming a quad on the next run was preventable thorough some simple safety measure, you'd do it...unless you don't care about seeing another sunset, or holding your firstborn kid in your arms, or helping someone get their life back in order by being a friend, or bombing a the perfect hill... DT and all the helmetless kids who love freedom, put your helmet on for someone else Good on ya Mike...
I've been skating for a while now, i think if you touch a hill you should wear a helmet, i think people took what you said jono and tried to twist it.
WEARING A HELMET saves lives and your head, you are ultimatly responsible for your own actions of wiether to wear one or not, personally i avoid skating hills with people that dont have a helmet, but when it comes to the skate park or around town, i prefer not to wear one.
i didnt mean to put words in other peoples mouths but i just thought that the popular opinion that you wernt wearing a helmet was not the smartest thing to do, i know i would get shit from lots of people if i didnt.
Helmets, Pads, Leathers, Gloves, Condoms, Taking bong rips, Shot gunning beers.......... Its all personal choice. Like DEVO said "FREEDOM OF CHOICE..........IS WHAT YOU GOT"
Have you ever had to watch helplessly as your friend goes through convulsions from head trauma? It's fucking terrifying. Don't be the asshole that has to put someone else through that.
if you cant skate as well because there is something foreign on your head, perhaps you should not be a skating.....ever think of that...lol
all it takes is a little rock in a skate bowl for you to hit your head too hard to come back from, ive hit a rock in seylynn and the only thing that kept my from being worst off then a concussion was the fact that i had a lid on to save my skull from being the thing that was left split open at the bottom of the run. il gladly bury a helmet that saved my life. last thing i want to be is the one that getting burried... or worst, left a vegetable cus i wouldnt spend the 30 bucks on a helmet. nuff said
Sir, I respect and agree with 100% of everything you just said. You write from the heart and everything you said about your wife hits very close to home. Make sure you thank her for me for her selfless service. Nurses and the like are a rare and often overlooked hero. They are often highly intelligent, very giving, and extremely special people. They carry a load on their backs that most people could never comprehend. Look at you Sir, you married a winner! Nate is solid too, but as you know the fruit doesn't fall far from the tree.
Having been in the right place at the right time, I have saved many lives in high impact shorebreak and reef situatuions; at the wedge, pipeline, and waimea bay. I am an excellent swimmer and with my very broad shoulders I make an excellent buouy. I never asked to be in that situation but damnit I could never live with myself if I just watched. I have also been on the flip side. I have done cpr on children and young adults who tragically died. One in particular comes to mind, he was hot dogging his crotch rocket down the Ortega Hwy. It is a winding narrow canyon run that is very long. I was coming back from the EDI Donner race and had dropped Flindt off at his pops. Coming around the bend, along the midpoint of the highway, I was first on scene. I immediately pulled off and went to work. Shortly after, another firefighter and an er nurse arrived. We worked him relentlessly, but having no suction, his airway was filled with blood. It gurgled out of him with every compression, I believe he ruptured his aorta, along with a pneumohemothorax after high siding into a guardrail at 80+mph. (I am sure your wife has delt with many of these and other sad calls in her 30 years) It took the fire department a while to get out to the scene and he was pronounced immediately. The 3 of us did our best and that was all we could do. I am at peace with this, but having read what you typed I am reminded how fragile life is. I can close my eyes and vividly see this picture and always will have this imprinted on me.
I have been in drive bys, been shot at, and had guns and knives held to me. I have been on the other side in defense as well. They don't bother me, I only react. I am very jaded in some respects, but I always enjoy each day I am granted. Skateboarding offers a similar sensation. I am calm, serene, and feel like time slows down, like I am in a vacuum. Very much like getting barreled at pipe. My reactions are deliberate and its been a while sense I have gotten any adrenaline rush from it. (Actually the last times were in those photos and when I snuck into the El Paso chuckie cheese parking garage to shoot video) But it is damn good fun!
I still feel the same regarding preaching to others when they dont ask for it. This is my point of view. As the saying goes,to each their own.
I should have mentioned earlier, in my post to Mike, that I believe that if you bring someone new into the sport, then you are responsible for teaching them how to be safe. This includes safety gear: helmets, shoes, pads, and most imortantly slide gloves. You also owe it to them to teach them how to footbrake, slide, and hold their lines around corners.
Guys like Joe Lehm are fantastic at teaching such skills. I forget Serial 5's name but Kevin has told me he too is a solid teacher. My hats off to them.
Sir, I agree with the families perspective but not so much with the friends. I will address you directly in regards to this via email.
I also want to add, posts like yours add substance, no matter where you stand. I much rather spend some time conversing with people that stand behind what they believe and can share why without letting there emotions take 100% control. If you find this a waste or pointless, go smoke a bowl and ponder what bearings will be faster in your orangatangs or maybe go on silverfish and ask what dervish setup everyone should pick out for you.
I feel as though if someone feels like its uncool to wear a helmet because of a skate video, they have whats coming to them. Let people make their own decisions, however unfortunate they may be.
Mr Lang got it right. I had a friend commit suicide just shy of two years ago. Hung himself. The fact that he chose to put a rope around his neck and chose to lift his feet off the ground was small comfort to those of us who miss him. We all wished more than anything that he had thought of just one person who cared about him before he put that damn rope around his neck. There were many many people who cared about him, even though he didn't see it.
What does this have to do with wearing a helmet? When you don't put on a helmet you make a decision to put a rope around your neck. You're just counting on luck to keep the chair under your feet.
I'm not posting my name out of respect for my friend. His suicide is not how I like to remember him and it isn't something I like to talk about. The pain is still very real two years later.
The best thing about the longboarding community is the culture of safety that is emerging and the fact companies are being called out for promoting unsafe behaviour. Like it or not if you're on film somewhere there is someone watching and wanting to do what you do. Your actions speak louder than words.
There is risk in everything we do, but why take uneccesary risks?
Don't make your friends wish you had worn a safe helmet. Don't ask them to hold your brains in their hands, if luck kicks the chair out from under your feet.
Please think of one person that cares about you when you debate if you should wear a helmet. Please.
From someone missing a friend who made them laugh and now only cries at the memories.
the only problem is that every time someone gets killed because they were not riding safe, it makes it that much harder for everyone else to ride.
we dont need anything that contribute to the image of us being suicidal and out of control.
although i was not skating at the time, in calgary a few years ago a guy was killed after he plowed through a stop sign without any gear.
there was a big backlash and the city wanted to crack down on this new fad of "hill bombing" because it was so dangerous.
its not just you that is affected by your choice to not wear a helmet, its all of us.
every time someone is killed or hurt because of a lack of common sense and safety gear, it mars the reputation of the sport as a whole.
the cops in this city let us ride certain locations only because we are safe about it. we use spotters, we wear helmets and we set a positive example of safety because we all want the freedom to ride at the end of the day.
Anyways wear a helmet if you wanna save your head, pretty much its that simple. I wear a brain bucket every time I go shred, except if I am going to 7-11 down the street but even then I should! When I go DH I wear my full face Motorcycle helmet or my Charly No Limit. And the ass hole who keeps posting these "bombing pics" with him not wearing a helmet. . your not cool, and don't say that Sector 9 represents riders without helmets, the point is there is a difference between advertisements and actually riding. Here in Utah there seems to be 3 different kinds of riders. . The really shitty ones who wear helmets because they are afraid or there mommy makes em' (nothing wrong with that too) There are is also the riders who are descent enough not to fall cause they don't get into the sport all that much,they just cruise and think they are cool because "they don't need a helmet". Than there is the good riders, every good rider I ride with wears a fucking helmet, why you might ask? TO SAVE OUR FUCKING LIVES!!! I would rather be mistaken for a poseur than be fucking dead my friend!!! Plus I sport the No Limit very well, and my brain bucket is well stickered with COASTie stickers
so.. wow that is alot of reading to do but from what ive read... i agree with Strike, its your fuckign choice to wear a helmet or not, but the day your bombing down a hill or even going in a straight line and you bail, smoke your head and whatever yuo will be sorry! whether its a car that hits you or yourself just plain old falling. ive known from experiance in both terms not wanting other people ending up dead cause they chose not to wear a helmet. have had a friend die cause he was merely crossing the road and he didnt have a helemt on, so have other people. its your choice to wear one or not. but i advise you before you bomb a dope ass hill without a helmet think abotu it... but were not stopping you were advising you! no harm done. protection is better then nothing.
We all live life to enjoy it, to embrace it, to love it. One of the ways I live my life is by skating. And if I want to CONTINUE what I love doing, I take advantage of what's presented to me. That includes helmets, pads, gloves, and leathers. Life is unpredictable and you never know when you will go down unexpectedly. I love my life too much to die from an accident that may have been solved by wearing the appropriate gear. I have too much to leave behind, so I use my resources to my best ability.
FREE SPEECH, I think some people ( yup i'm telling people my opinions, yeah canada,) should fuckin wear helmets, its safer, and besideds the stupid fucks (more free speech) who don't wear helmets should at least live in canada were we have FREE HEALTH CARE, so , if i choose to not wear a lid and say, hit the wall in the middle of the langdale bypass at the bottm goin 90, at least my goverment will pay for it not my momma, and man i hope you your don't get to fucked up, but if you do can i have your quiver. CHEers fuckin radtatic COAST COAST COAST....fuck i need a joint
i know you know that wearing a helmet is safer... thoes pics are RADD haha all i have to say to you is.... where a helmet.. no one .....NO ONE WANTS TO START 2009 OFF WITH A DEAD DT!!!!!!!!!!!!
yeah groms bitching is one of the most annoying things ever. i don't even know who this jono kid is and he's bitching at a skateboard company that's been around long than he's been on a board and owners who've been skating longer than he's been alive.
i like that post "earn your place or learn your place"
its nice to know that you care about everyone's well being, but don't shove it down our throats and especially to owners of an established company. Who the hell are you to call them out on it?
andrew elphinstone, when you say at least the government will pay for it, you do realize that it's all taxpayers who are paying for your med bill, that includes your mom and possibly yourself ( not sure of your age). Most of all it includes most of us to. Pritty sure we'd rather our tax dollars go to new roads than keeping you on life support
so its ok if its an in ad??? what kind of reasoning is that. If your making an ad are you somehow immune to the laws of physics. Or do they pose in front of a green screen all Hollywood style?
No one talked shit on Sector 9, I simply asked how they are any different than Original in regards to advertising without helmets. Sector 9 has always stood behind our outlaw series. They sponsor my friends and employ one of the only skaters that will skate full moon seshes all night with me, Victor. They also sponsor HANK WILLIAMS III !!! He puts the Dick in Dixie and Cunt in Country!
do curse words appear on your screen when you live in Utah or do the mormans control that too?
Nick,
I fart wings out my ass and fly away from danger. Use my hands?? why would I use my hands? can't you slide without them? cheers!
Ugly Fuck, I tried wearing a helmet 24/7 but it kept cracking and falling off. I tried a bag next, but they kept running away everytime i went to bed. Next I resorted to ski masks and my balaclavas but bad things always happen.
I always considered posers people who try and make others think they are someone they are not. Like all these fucks who go out and buy Charly No limit helmets, NJKs (before you stick your foot up your ass, Kelcey and Bufford are the SHIT!!! Thanks again Kelcey for all the times you've hooked us up with your front row box seats at the speedway track!), carbon fiber boards or boards that look like evos but they're pressed in Huntington Beach, Maguns or JimZs, and (key point here) DONT EVEN FUCKING RIDE BUT THEY ARE APART OF THE SILVERCLIT (insert sf stud here i.e.MALAKAI,KRIMES,DUBESTER, OR COLTON) FAN CLUB - THOSE ARE THE FUCKING POSERS IF YOU ASK ME!
oh and if you think i give a rat's ass or witch's titty about being cool or my image, well you can suck my shaft, just dont forget to cradle my balls and swallow. bitches.
On average 2.4 million people die each day. Remember that the next time your skating to pick up some beer a few blocks away. Rarely does someone die doing what they love. I welcome death, I don't fear it!
I need to start getting more into base jumping, at least few jumpers are delusional about their consequences.
Kinda like air masks on crashing jet airliners, at least you feel and look safe while dying.
Mike,
Its easy to type about things your passionate about, it doesn't take very long.
I spoke up in this thread in regards to Judgement and Persecution NOT helmets. Helmets are merely the tip of the iceberg floating on a slippery slope of sunshine.
I have said my two hundred cents and am finished, considered it an early Christmas gift for those that can't read posts longer than a few words.
I am going to go fuck MYself now, so cheers, piece, and love, dt
oh i almost forgot, Merry Christmas! STaND uP RuLEs!!!
chocolate, theres a differenece betweeen paying taxes and a million dollars out of your own pocket
everyone else, i think everyone should do what they thinks best for them, me its with a helmet, bombing, and my slide "helemt" wouldn't do shit its more for show...to each is there own, but remeber, if you do spill your brains, at least take a picture for us to admire
yep.... should wear ur lid. But you don't have to, its up to you!! I've never accually used my lid yet. By that i mean never smashed my head. All this time i coulda not worn a lid...
fuck yeah!! MJK for the WIN! anyways...haha how arrogant is it to say something in regards of mormons just because we're from Utah. damn dude, if you want to even say something about mormons, be sure to know your spelling before hand. i thought you were trying to make your point accross, not make personal insult that of which you know nothing about.
fuk all you assholes who think your so cool because you dont wear a helmet. if you fuks wanna go ride without helmets go ahead. but when you fuk up and you become a vegtable im gonna laugh. it you assholes who give longboarding a bad reputation.
oh and just because some of us live in utah dosent mean were some uptight asshole mormon fuker.
Some of these posts just become more and more unintelligent and contribute less to the thread.
Wearing a helmet is something we all push, but cannot enforce. I'm pretty we have all decided and know that. I use my judgment to decide whether or not I may need a helmet. All those times I've decided to wear my helmet, it has been put to use at one point. I've taken really shitty falls, I owe my life to wearing a helmet at least 17 times. I always take this as a reminder of how dangerous and real this sport can become, despite how fun and awesome it is. I try and avoid riding with people who don't wear helmets when we're doing some gnarly stuff, but it's their choice.
Seeing videos like Mike posted of that gentlemen dying breaks my heart and really puts a foot down as to wear my life and passion tie in. Like my momma always said, if you want keep doing what you're doing in the long term, you gotta do what you can to keep yourself in one piece.
Jono is a respectful guy, he did not mean to shove the message down anyone's throat and was just trying to convey a message that people should convey safety with helmets on their advertisements so people who have never skated before and that watch that video don't decide to go longboarding without a lid... i know Jono well and just doesnt want people dying in our sport. Its you choice to wear your helmet, not his i agree with that, but all he is trying to do is spread safety, so why does that mean he has to (quote: dt) "fuck himself" for spreading safety? he may be a grom but he isnt a noob, and he is learning fast.
blah blah blah blah blah, the main point of this thread is you SHOULD wear a helmet, just like you SHOULD wear a condom, or you SHOULD wear a winter jacket when its cold out...get it together, you DO NOT have to do anything you dont wanna do in this great country we call canada, so untighten whatever is in your ass, you all know who i am talking to, and just relax. wearing your helmet is a good idea, no matter if your on your board doing 2km/hour or 100km/hour. relax, smoke a joint and if you dont feel like you need it, then dont, but if your always not wearing one, then you deserve whats coming to you next.
your a middle aged tool with nothing to do but post pictures of you going down a hill with your fat ass and belly hanging all over the place. not cool!!
None of us are impressed, and back to S9. I would rather have them wear helmets in their pictures but when advertising it looks a lot cooler to my generation when someone is not wearing a helmet, its a shame I know, but also the way it is. And if some poor soul were to see your fat ass pictures and somehow feel inspired to go board they might be inspired to not wear a helmet next time they go out. I respect all boarders, with a few exceptions. One of them is boarders that try to defend them selves about the subject of not wearing a helmet. We are only human, I obviously can't make you wear one but I am glad that the top boarders in the world like Scoot, Kevin, Mischo and others ALWAYS have helmets on in their pics, also I appreciate and look up to Bricin from COAST for always tagging pics on coast to make them say " PUT YOUR FUCKING HELMETS"
Your starting a useless fight with the boarder population if you think you are too cool to not wear a helmet. If your that arrogant maybe its only natural selection taking into effect when you fall and die? Idk though, good luck not falling. . you will need it DT
But as a close, I am with Turbo and offaxis here. I am out of this convo because it lost its meaning of the thread the second post in. And as an American I am kinda feeling awkward you shove a beautiful American flag down your pants when you bomb.
he has been bommin hills longer than some of you have been alive and will bomb hills way after you stop.
i have skated with him he wore a helmet. i think his whole argument is more about freedom of choice than helmets of not.
if you went skateboarding with him today he would have a helmet and he is cool enough to actually skate wyth you. he would show you the ropes and be a big brother to you.
ease up fools
if ya want to dissagree come up with a well articulated argument and say what you got.
Allthough my 'personal opinion' is that you should wear helmets...
I've said it before and I'll say it again.... Darwin's theory of selectivity will eventualy weed out the stupid.
who cares if some jack ass doesn't wear his/her helmet. Just be smart enough to wear one yourself.
and as I can see how it could be frowned upon for a company to promote their products unsafely... people really need to take responsability for their own safety.
its kinda like complaining about a TV show corrupting your kids mind and then letting them watch it whenever they want anyway.
Mr.Freak has a good point you dum fuks can go fuk your self and get fuked up not wearing a helmet. and us smarter people will have fun shredding while being safe. but we should care if the dum fukers go out and die because they dont wear a helmet because we lose a member of this sport and it makes us all look like dum fuks. and i dont think you should advertise you prouduct with a rider who is not wearing a helmet because the youngens will think there cool and go fuk them selves up. and no one cares how long you have been shreddin we all fall and make mistakes.
man.... jonos post was fine. and everyone thats giving him the third degree and dumping their shit on him kinda sucks. seems to me he's just looking out the safety of others. nothing wrong with that. to quote the original post "I might be blowing things out of proportion" I think thats what we all did here. haha of course we should all know helmets arent optional when dhing. but for some people they are and thats just the way it is.
By the way peterlang is the man, what I have been trying to say is what he said a little while back in this message board. Sure you don't have to, no one can make you but reallly, really think about who your going to hurt if you die or end up seriously injured. . It will of course be yourself but also your family. Oh and DANGER BAY 8 WILL RULE!!!! Just got my passport last week!!!
my bucket has saved me at least 2 times. If you dont want to wear one, dont, it's your life you are playing with. Just remember who you may hurt if you died or were injured (family and friends).
The biggest deal is the fact that those posies over at orginal don't wear slide gloves.
But yeah I wear a helmet when I feel I am at risk of injury. I do admit there are times where I go without, when I feel perfectly safe. ie commuting, even skating the heelside turns on the path in front of my home (never the toeside ones though even though I am better... to much potential for damage in the 1/10000 chance I fuck up)
anyone who read any of DT's posts are now more NAZI-fied than ever before!!!
Notice that all the capital letters in all his posts continuously spell "WHITE POWER"?!?!?!?!
DT is the spawn of satan and monica lewinski
while DT doesn't ACTUALLY eat babies, he does eat nothing but twinkies and manages to shit live babies!!! If you haven't seen it in person, i suggest you come to his next race!! i adopted one and i'm teachin him how to bomb the hills at his preschool.
I once saw DT wink at a chick and she died instantly from a stroke. Easiest lay i ever got, though!!!
In conclusion, Wear a helmet or die... Risk death wearing a helmet or risk death without a helmet. Either way, just hope you can die bombing a hill and not taking a shit.
ONLY THE STUPIDEST SKATERS ALIVE dont wear helmets i know of people who are paralized from skateing at less than 10km and crashing WEAR YOUR HELMETS nuff said
almost every pro street skater on the planet doesnt wear a helmet. so why not bitch at the million other companies dc etnies, es, etc. the list goes on. to each his own
The only time anyone HAS TO wear a helmet is if they sign up for a race or some sort of competition. We should all wear helmets as often as we can. Yeah, I know, I skate for S9 and somehow(like always) they came up in this thread. I also realize that there is a banner of me doing a slide without a helmet. That was one shot out of about 50 and Dudebro and I were at that little spot for an hour trying to get that shot. I would seriously run, throw my board down, push a few times and the slide, and then walk back up as far as I needed to get speed. I guess I could have worn a helmet, but my hair wouldn't have looked as good in Surfer, Surf Shot, Concrete wave, Happy Mag and Coast Longboarding. It's called advertising. It makes people buy more skateboards so people like me, Jeff, Noah, Patrick, JM and Erik can go on more trips and develope new products. Otherwise, we all wear our helmets more often than a lot of haters want to think. And don't talk shit to DT, he can and does do what he wants and doesn't give a flying fuck about what you think about him. He'll score higher on an IQ test than you, have more fun at the party and could probably rip your arms off if you actually had the ball ebnough to say some of this shit to his face. Or he might just laugh, make you flinch and watch as you go cry in the corner. Wear your helmets, don't drink beer, don't smoke weed, make sure your shoes are tied, don't run with scissors, don't swim after eating, don't read in dim light, turn your music down, keep em at 10 and 2, look both ways, measure twice and cut once and put on sunblock. Oh wait, we're all humans whith the right and ability to make our own choices.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH this thread is overflowing with happyness. hey danny did u ever get your coat u left at danger bay last year. i hope so. the only good post was from pete lang. nate your parents rock.
Whatever let them ride without helmets. When someone dies from skating and the original skateboard vids are on their favorites on youtube then the heat will come back to them then. That's all it takes, you know how humans work. Not a problem till it affects them... Do what you want, I hate rules as much as any anarchist but when you are an influence you should really think twice about what you're preaching.
DT, SF stud? ive never heard that one before but i can assure you that i ride quite often. just cause i cant make it out to every race doesnt necessarily mean im not skating around home. as a matter of fact im pretty certain you know many of the hills i skate on a regular basis. we should ride some time. you are well respected in my book for what you've helped do with the california downhill community. next time you call max capps up for a ride ill be up to it. i was gonna go skate with you guys yesterday but i was busy at work.
I can't take it any more!!I confess, I confess, please stop the torture!! It was TimeShip Racing's fault all along, and I've just sat on the sidelines letting all of these upstanding companies and riders take the blame. Danny Connor is exactly right that only a race promoter or sponsor can MAKE you wear a helmet. Your riding buddies can't make you wear one but they CAN not let you ride with them. Many have taken this vow, right Deano?
Not since Maryhill 2005 when TimeShip enforced a helmet impact rating has there been such a heated, name calling, link posting, insult slinging, DT bashing, rambling and irritating thread on helmets and why to use them. I think it's healthy. As a race promoter I have tons of examples which I'll spare you....except for two.
At that very same TSR Maryhill in 2005 Bricin was the receipient of the SNELL award having survived an awful helmet cracking head smacker thanks to Mercado's lack of experience. Bricin claimed to have had a headache for at least a week after, but when he regained his skills he was emphatic that the impact rated helmet saved his life. Do you still have that trophy helmet and medal? Can I get a witness?
The other is from Ditch Slap '08 when a SICK tail wind at indian school ditch propelled David Angelus helmetless and head first into a railing that shook the ground at mach speed. We all thought he was dead as he lay bleeding and motionless. The pictures that Huey took and the video that Ricker took have never been made public because they are so horrific....shaken EMT's, crying betty's, and confounded organizers. He lived to skate another day but still only wears a helmet when a race promoter makes him.
Only a company like TimeShip Racing that produces and sells safety gear and helmets should be held accountable for always depicting riders wearing it. Other companies are entitled to set their own standards, however low that may be.
Notice that while Sector 9 rider Danny Connor is not wearing a helmet in the above mentioned ad, he IS wearing his TimeShip Bear Paws!!!
A wise spaniard told me once... "Mike, without that helmet, your head would fuck!" It's true,I hit my head on everything. So I wear a helmet. I should put one on now.
I love this thread though, happy new year!!!!!!! 2009... let's crack some lids>
I'm not a charity so if you want me to send you a helmet there will be this terrible thing called "work" attached. People get a thing called a "tax credit" when they give money they have "worked" for to charities.
If you are unable to do this thing called "work", how about you give the foundation a call if you need a helmet?
ive broken 2 icaros a charly and a half shell around my dome. Had ct scans all three times, lost hours and days of my memory still don't remember what happened, I think back to everytime I've had a serious wreck and smashed the dome, everyone was in a situation with another skater, shit happens no matter what. I always wear a helmet except for when kicking to the store or commuting through la. I dont ride dh with people if they don't want to put a lid on. I could care less if they are indifferent on their life's outcome, I just don't want to be one of the three friends standing around waiting for the ambulance to come and scoop up a skaters brains and watching the blood run down the hill. Im sort of in between on this topic, Im all for helmets, but also for personal choice, as long as its not directly affecting others. I see others not wearing helmets in parks and whatnot all the time, who gives a flying fuck, christian hosoi was at the venice park blasting over head airs and his fedora didn't move once...
I agree, helmets are really important. my friend just got out of childrens hospital after 2 weeks and now has to go to speech rehabilitation for 2-3 weeks because of longboarding without a helmet
Holy shit! What a passionate argument on safety advocation! Fish ain't got shit on this hah...
"opinions are like assholes.."
"There is shit on your ass too..."
Such fervent debate is a clear sign of diversity among athletes. Cook-cutter opinions are about as entertaing as the next SF thread.
Safety? I do try... Should you? I don't even know you. Better that you do? Sure. Would you like me to wake you in the morning with eggs and bacon? OF COURSE!
Thank you to all the older riders, can't wait to steal your draft! THANK YOU COAST! YOU FUCKIN' ROCK!
i thought this shit was DEAD as dead as some shit head not wearing his helmet. do you go fuck some skank on hastings without a helmet of course not. this debate was long over why bring it up. whats fucking unacceptable is this fucked thread.
D.T shut the fvck up, we get it. You are fat and your time here is more limited so you dont give a shit. OKAY thats fine. Enjoy your heart attack and or coma
This is really amusing to read, For all you guys stop bashing DT's weight like actually? not cool I wear a helmet allways besides from crusing on my small board Just do it if you dont well let you find out on your own, go ahead Wear a lid, same your life, its a really hard desicsion Get out there and shred Ryan
This thread resurfaced as an indirect result to a change in context that really has nothing to do with this thread; and frankly the change is none of your business and had zero impact in this discussion. So forget about it, aa!!
Since it has resurfaced, I will end my contribution to this thread with this, my final post.
I still stand by everything I stated above but wish to say one more thing to Jono.
Jono in case you didn't catch it in one of the other posts from another thread, let me repeat it.
I apologise for being so harsh to YOU. I could have still posted in a provocative manner without being a dick to you. You struck a nerve that was personal, so I ran with it in force. I think the real fuel behind my heated discussion came from past experiences with smellyfish and felt a connection in the spirit of your text. I think its rad that you are passionate about safety and skateboarding. I just don't agree with how you addressed original. Anyway its a dead matter to me and thats all I have to say about that. To each there own. Respect.
To those that could follow what I was really saying I showed respect wether we agreed or not. To those that didn't have the brain power to mutter anything than preschool retoric listen up.
hear it??
wah-wah weh ah wah-wah weh ah
thats me playing the world's smallest violin.
you only matter to Jesus and He knows you blankman by your real name and He loves you. Doesn't matter that you're a coward. Doesn't matter if your a whore, a drug addict, or just a deuche.
oh snap, bet you didnt see that one coming.
The more people take part in this sport, the more haters emerge.
You think there are alot of sheep now? Just wait 11 more years and see how thick the flock is. Watch how many carbon copy bandwagon posers talk the same old stale talk and dance the robot.
Don't be afraid to stand up for yourself and go against the flow if thats where your heart is. It doesn't necessarily make you RIGHT but at least you have flavor and passion.
I should probably close this now, but instead I will share one more thing with my friends that may be reading this.
Few men in my family ever lived to see much past there 30s. In fact I never thought I would live to see 30. I lived my life that way and have experienced more in my life time than many do in 3 or 4. After turning 30 last August I feel like each day is on borrowed time and I will never stop living like its my last day. Funny thing is I'll probably live alot longer than 60 and maybe even 90. Who knows? Not me. But it will be a wild one thats for sure!
I think for these reasons I have always looked up to old school athletes like Mickey Mantle and Rollie Free. These guys were studs that lived it wide open both on the field/track/salt flats and on the town. Regardless of injuries, pain, or what anybody else thought. Don't know who they are? google them.
No one needs to stick up for me when people call me fat or whenever other clever nutjobber one liners spew. It doesnt bother me one bit and will never take my smile away. I have heard it most my life and it has never kept me from being an all state record breaking athlete, This thread resurfaced as an indirect result to a change in context that really has nothing to do with this thread; and frankly the change is none of your business and had zero impact in this discussion. So forget about it, aa!!
Since it has resurfaced, I will end my contribution to this thread with this final post.
I still stand by everything I stated above but wish to say one more thing to Jono.
Jono in case you didn't catch it in one of the other posts from another thread, let me repeat it.
I apologise for being so harsh to YOU. I could have still posted in a provocative manner without being a dick to you. You struck a nerve that was personal, so I ran with it in force. I think the real fuel behind my heated discussion came from past experiences with smellyfish and felt a connection in the spirit of your text. I think its rad that you are passionate about safety and skateboarding. I just don't agree with how you addressed original. Anyway its a dead matter to me and thats all I have to say about that. To each there own. Respect.
To those that could follow what I was really saying I showed respect wether we agreed or not. To those that didn't have the brain power to mutter anything than preschool retoric listen up.
hear it??
wah-wah weh ah wah-wah weh ah
thats me playing the world's smallest violin.
you only matter to Jesus and He knows you blankman by your real name and He loves you. Doesn't matter that you're a coward. Doesn't matter if your a whore, a drug addict, or just a deuche.
oh snap, bet you didnt see that one coming.
The more people take part in this sport, the more haters emerge.
You think there are alot of sheep now? Just wait 11 more years and see how thick the flock is. Watch how many carbon copy bandwagon posers talk the same old stale talk and dance the robot.
Don't be afraid to stand up for yourself and go against the flow if thats where your heart is. It doesn't necessarily make you RIGHT but at least you have flavor and passion.
I should probably close this now, but instead I will share one more thing with my friends that may be reading this.
Few men in my family ever lived to see much past there 30s. In fact I never thought I would live to see 30. I lived my life that way and have experienced more in my life time than many do in 3 or 4. After turning 30 last August I feel like each day is on borrowed time and I will never stop living like its my last day. Funny thing is I'll probably live alot longer than 60 and maybe even 90. Who knows? Not me. But it will be a wild one thats for sure!
I think for these reasons I have always looked up to old school athletes like Mickey Mantle and Rollie Free. These guys were studs that lived it wide open both on the field/track/salt flats and on the town. Regardless of injuries, pain, or what anybody else thought. Don't know who they are? google them.
No one needs to stick up for me when people call me fat or whenever other clever nutjobber one liners spew. It doesnt bother me. I have heard it most my life and it has never kept me from being an all state record breaking athlete,racing in triathlons, pulling into giant triple overhead barrels, driving race cars at really fast speeds, never kept me from getting laid with some mighty sexy women, never kept me from hanging with rock stars,good guys, and bad guys.
Since those photos were taken I've lost 45+ pounds and lost 12%+ body fat. By spring I am on tract to loose another 30-40. Which will leave me with more strength, better cardio, and better flexibility than the majority of you haters. Sad thing is, even by spring those that couldn't comprehend what I was saying above, whether you agreed or not, will still be stupid. Not to mention those with no game, can try all they want, but they will only be bigger wusses.
Bricin, Thanks again for keeping COAST RAD and pure. Thanks for NOT having a login and a stinkyfish/ncdsa style bulletin board. YOU RULE.
You know who else rule, NAKED SKATEBOARDERS, especially the girls !!!!!
Even though this thread was spent long ago, its kinda like your grandpa on viagra. Old, rusty, out of breath, and as hard as ever!
elvis has left the building smiling from ear to ear :D
DT, I'm cool with you, this was just a long time ago and my feelings have changed from WEAR A HELMET to do what you want, reap the consequences... dont worry about. sorry for sounding like a prick. now everyone stop replying to this crap
people without helmets are NOT the problem. Obama and his new world order is the fucking problem. Quit hating on skaters and start hating on the global elite that control our lives!
AHAHAHAH can of worms indeed. whatta thread. I really could care less what you think blankman, I am backing away because every human has the right to make a choice to wear a lid or not. I was only trying to influence a lame company, but I was doing it wrong. They'll change when one of their riders becomes a vegetable.
sorry for stirring up trouble, didnt mean it. but srsly guys, this is from last year. put it to rest
"I am a MAN and I live with whatever consequences I recieve from my own actions."
Helmets are good.. especially carbon fibre ones with mattress foam inside.How many hardcore sufers do i know from back home that would never be caught dead wearing a helmet? too many..but oh the sandbank (never mind rocks and reefs) can also give you brain damage! i always tell kids to wear 'em when skating but realistically we all know that there are times we don't. That's never gonna change,but the beauty of life is for every action there is a reaction/consequence. Like not wearing a helmet while negotiating steps drunk,shit can happen,some are lucky some are not. The beauty of it all is you don't know when either are gonna come your way. So if you don't wear it then expect the unexpected. I am no angel and i have seen the repercussions of what insufficient helmets can do..it's your choice but it could also be your funeral.
Though I totally agree with the fact that a person should make their own decisions and accept the consequences for their own actions, to me, wearing a helmet isn't only about protecting my self, but more so about protecting the people around you whos lives would be fucked up beyond recognition if anything were to happen to you. The friend that had to watch you bleed to death on the pavement, the person who's responsibility it would be come to feed you, and wipe your ass for you if you became a vegetable. Those types of people. I agree that it is up to the individual to decide weather or not they personally wear a helmet, I think that our skate companies need to be more responsible because they are the ones influencing new riders, and they are who are publicly viewed by a population of non-skaters i.e. the people we need to impress, in order to keep doing what we are doing.
tldr; Individually, decide if a helmet is a good idea, as a COMPANY or as an EVENT, helmets should be MANDATORY.
I wear a helmet because my boyfriend doe not need to watch me die, and my family doesn't need to be burdened with a vegetable for the rest of their lives.
ive seen friends with helmets layed out with no cellphone towers to call for help....foaming form the mouth...seeing your friend bleeding from the head should change your thoughts...... think what you want but helmets save me from having to deal with the shit hole days your friends dying in front of your eyes!!!
have y0u ever huged your friend for the last time on a mountain in the middle of nowhere..thinking its the last time you will ever do that again..
coast preaches the helmets because we have been there and done that...
i dont care if you and your crew doesnt have helmets and you think your hardcore bombing hill without your helmets.......but when your cool longboarding crew has a death from a no helmet crash...send me the us the fuckin pic!!!!
all i say is - the human body wasn't designed for anything faster than running speed . personally if i'm goign faster than that i usually put a helmet on . but everyone out there can do what ever they want . ... i remember when benny bailz and me were the only ones sakting giants head . and dillion and travis came up there to try it out . they didn't have helmet the first time ... i think we sent them home
RE: Unacceptable
